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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 16:50 Worried wrote:
    After enjoying one of the best firework displays in Lewes by all the societies last night, I personally don't feel anyone pipped anyone to the best fireworks as they were all out standing.
    But I did go to bed slightly worried about an event that i thought i saw on the Borough Firesite.
    Building up towards the finale it seemed a rather large aerial firework discharged and exploded at ground level which looked to be on 2 bonfire boys after this there seemed to be an extremely quick detonation of the finale fireworks and it seemed quite a short finale, followed up by all the firesite members running up to where the "incident" happened and crowd round, quickly joined by a van with its lights on.
    Now I could just being a bit OTT but if a member of Borough or someone closer could shed some light if some one else saw this and i just misinterpreted what i saw and am just being silly.
    Cracking bonfire

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 18:09 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    I had heard that one of their firework team was injured when a set of mortar tubes fell over.

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 18:15 easy_tiger wrote:
    The parades were great last night but totally ruined by the loud bangs. Without ear defence these were painful and damaging to hearing. Let's keep these to a minimum next year in order to protect everyone's hearing. Please!

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 18:24 MC wrote:
    easy_tiger. I'm afraid have to agree (much as I don't like to). Those bangers (or whatever they are called now) are stupidy loud. I had to take my son home due to some idiots throwing these hideous things near us. His 8 yr old friend, in a band in the Commercial Square parade is still deaf in one ear after some cretin threw a banger into an oil drum right next to him.
    Bonfire: It's not a family affair.

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 18:54 Worried wrote:
    Thank you Annette hopefully this isn't to serious.
    I also agree with the comments made on the use of rookies, bangers e.t.c i think you know when they are becoming dangerous when you feel the force of the explosion hit you. I think it has gotten to a time where they should be cut down or banned all together as they are just becoming dangerous.
    And before i am shot down by the bonfire faithful i am also a bonfire boy at heart but was unable march last night due to illness but i did take the time to get down town and back the societies. I have never been a fan of the detonation of fireworks in the street but realise this is part of bonfire but every year they become bigger and last night i noticed the dangerous of the fuse shooting out on detonation. I think it has come to a time where the societies make an agreement to only detonate rookies on the firesite where the public are away from it.

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 21:30 MC wrote:
    I hate the idea of banning anything. But if it is solely the societies who throw the rookies (bangers) then they need to think about the effect it has and act accordingly. Otherwise the celebrations will become solely the domain of the brain dead, teenagers, pissheads, arseholes, the disenfranchised and the deaf. Certainly it'll be out of bounds to families.

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 21:47 no need to worry wrote:
    Firstly Worried I am impressed with your knowledge of shells. You must have read the Lewes Borough program. Secondly yes a shell did go off low and set off the finale. At this point the well trained and vastly experienced pyro team moved in to make sure that all the other shells were safe. To my knowledge the only thing that was hurt was the pride of the Lewes Borough who have been making their displays the best in Lewes for a long time,I hope this helps.

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    On Fri 6 Nov 2009 at: 22:20 Worried (All Better Now) wrote:
    My knowledge is from many years on helping out with fireworks and just from watching them go off coming from a very firework orientated family it was sort of in my blood so to speak .
    And to be completely honest, accident, mistake, mess up.... I personally feel that it was unnoticed due to the brilliance of Borough's fireworks this year! I actually didn't notice the accidental ignition, all i saw was a shell fire incredibly low in the direction of two pyro guys (or gals) and then they surrounded that area.
    Fantastic display last night non the less!!! You have done no damage to yourselves in the eyes of the viewers.

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    On Sat 7 Nov 2009 at: 20:26 Bonfire Boy wrote:
    Bourough's Captain of Fireworks was hit in the leg by shrapnel from the tube that the shell blew up. He's had to have surgery and plastic surgery so hope he gets well soon,

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    On Sun 8 Nov 2009 at: 00:30 Rod wrote:
    I disheartened to here about a minority of Commercial Square Members being silly. I personally like the bangs which is why I will mostly be found in that section of the procession. Throwing fireworks into the crowd and near children and near bands however is NOT ok and marshalls of the society try their best to make it clear to members. I take responsibility for my own hearing by wearing ear plugs or cotton wool and every year take with me spare cotton wool to give to other people, often people children who havn't brought anything. I usualy find myself warning parents of small children that it would be wise to move further forward in the procession to avoid the bangs. This year I witnessed a number of irresponible parents in the crowd leaving very small children in the front row completely unprotected whilst all back of the smugglers came past with all the bangs; therefore their heads almost at firework level. Concerned about the kids I warned a guy of the risks who didn't appear bothered in the slightest. This to me seems equally idiotic. Its a bit like walking in the middle of a busy road, whether you like cars or not it is asking to get hurt. Safety is everyones responsibility.

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    On Sun 8 Nov 2009 at: 12:14 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    I like the stuff going off in the processions too. To me, it encapsulates the anarchic, rebellious spirit of bonfire and, more importantly, demonstrates that we're not becoming the bunch of panty-waisted Pecksniffs that the authorities would like us to be.
    Fireworks should stay in the procession though, it's every bit as wrong for bonfire boys to throw them into the crowd as it is for the crowd to throw them into the procession. Any half sensible bonfire boy knows that you don't throw them near kids or bands too, although some of them seem to forget every damn year.
    A couple of people at library corner complained about the heat and smoke from torches. I felt compelled to ask wtf they were doing at bonfire if they didn't like heat or smoke.........

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    On Sun 8 Nov 2009 at: 17:42 me wrote:
    I saw 4 dogs (of the woof variety before the jokes come a tumbling) out. I also saw various people with babies in those shoulder holder things. Where do they dig these people up from lackofintelligence town!

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    On Sun 8 Nov 2009 at: 18:38 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    I saw an escaped Jack Russell running along Priory Street at about 9.30, followed about 5 minutes later by his anxious owners. I hope they got him back ok.

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 11:35 Down and Out wrote:
    It's possible to watch the United Grand in it's entirety on Youtube. To be fair, as a proportion of the whole it's only a very small section of CSBS smugglers where the noise is relentless. And then, having been in it, it's worth noting that by far the loudest activity is reserved for the march to firesite up the Offham Road and through the Landport, where there are few people watching.
    But it's all a bit like complaining that you like the sea being blue but wish it wasn't so salty. It is what it is, and I think it's right that it should feel like complete anarchy, briefly. Earplugs are a couple of quid a pack from Boots if it bothers you that much. When I was a kid I used to go and see a lot of bands like Motorhead, and that certainly did a great deal more damage to my hearing than an entire night of rooks going off under my feet.
    I didn't see any rooks chucked at the crowd so I can't really comment, but from where I was the practice of throwing them into the middle of the road / procession to keep them away from the crowd was pretty well adhered too.

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 12:03 ere be monsters wrote:
    Bonfire, either embrace it or get lost, we don't ask you to come and watch. If you want to take your kids to a carnival go to Uckfield at the start of the season. We do a good carnival procession in June, go to that. We are not going to change the celebrations just to appease the very few of you that don't like loud noises. Get on with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes we do wish him well with his recovery.

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 12:12 Down and Out wrote:
    The CSBS archbishop took a rookie up the sleeve (no that's not a euphemism!) on the stand at firesite. In typical stoic fashion he'd not even picked the bits of exploded shirt out of the hole in his arm whilst tidying up next morning, let alone sought medical help. Daft sod.

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 19:05 lewe wrote:
    exactly, if you dont like it dont come and if you dont like and live here stay in or go away for the night.
    its finished now so chill

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 19:09 Chuck wrote:
    The guy who got hit, had to have five stitches. No plastic surgery or skin grafts were required.

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    On Mon 9 Nov 2009 at: 22:59 Fat old men wrote:
    Oh so to be able to watch the splendour of many a wonderful hand crafted costume and beautiful burning torches, we have to run the gauntlet of having our faces blown off by some fat aging wannabe thugs dressed in unimaginative stupid stripy jumpers! Get a life you silly old men and step aside for the real stylish subscribers to bonfireq

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    On Tue 10 Nov 2009 at: 00:03 Smiler wrote:
    Yerr - Or you could just watch the Cliffe processions instead

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    On Tue 10 Nov 2009 at: 07:34 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    Lol!
    Anyone who thinks bonfire is about stylish costumes deserves a few rookies going off round their feet imo.

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    On Tue 10 Nov 2009 at: 09:16 ere be monsters wrote:
    "Fat old men" Please let us all know when the last time someone got their face blown off by a rookie. Are you a "real stylish subscriber to bonfire", or just one of the freeloaders that contribute NOTHING to the 5th but insist that it runs just the way you want it to. If you would like to appreciate the ornate costumes then attend the BONCO competition. Also see previous comments re Uckfield Carnival

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    On Tue 10 Nov 2009 at: 15:18 Spanish4 wrote:
    Umm nobody asked you to come and watch the processions. We don't march for the benefit of anyone beyond ourselves and we set off rookies and crackers because we always have done (its thus a tradition!) and we enjoy it.
    As to the stripy jumpers then yeah that might be the loud section of the lesser societies, in the Cliffe you'll find its the navel ranks who'll send you scuttling with a continuos barrage of rookies (our smugglers ranks seem to be occupied by smaller children these days and we happily ensure we stand between them and our bangs when we pass at the turning point of our grand)
    We do our best to ensure that bangs are kept in the middle of the road and are covered by our own feet to prevent injury to any unwitting tourist who happens to be lining our procession route. The really big stuff goes in the canons anyway so we can be sure of the direction and avoid hurting anyone outside of our own ranks.
    If you want to really see some banging action then stay around for the Cliffe last. There is no point hanging on to anything we've got left at that point so its all red smoke and bangs thought the ranks. Just don't stand near a drain cover unless you want a depth charge soaking!
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