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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 00:10 cath wrote:
    Ahhh !! Bless the Cliffe tubthumpers, they are at least trying !! Why do you think fast food vans were everywhere......it's called being enterprising. Since when has commercialism had anything to do with Christmas, it's called 'cashing in' and good luck to those who see a way to make a few quid, at least they are still trying.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 00:43 Tom Jones wrote:
    Agree, drummers added a nice atmosphere. Lewes wouldn't be the same without all those people in general, contributing to events like tonight, Paddock and bonfire, embracing and promoting community spirit. Thank you.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 01:05 exiled in lewes wrote:
    What was that all about!
    What a miserable, half-arsed event that was.
    What is it with the lazy, smug 'can't be bothered ' attitude of our local capitalists that meant 9 out of ten shops couldnt even string a tenner's worth of lights across the front of their shops to say 'the recession wasnt our fault but, hey, we're going to come out fighting anyway so why not support us'.
    And it didnt help that some dipstick at the council thought that the obligatory trees in cliffe precinct and at the memorial would look good covered in a counterfeit-candle lit condom!
    Sheesh! As ever, I'm just glad i'm an atheist.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 06:02 spongebob wrote:
    I thought exactly the same Lambretta.....what on earth has this got to do with xmas ? I too can play the drums and i could've played better with one arm tied behind my back.

    One thing that did surprise me was the amount of people in town last night....it was absolutely heaving !!!

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 08:53 ere be monsters wrote:
    Whatever you think of their ability, they are amateur drummers trying to do something to support local events, and are much appreciated by the majority. You have shown yourself to be a pompous t**t before Lambretta (you're more like a Honda 50 I suspect) so stop knocking people just because you feel more superior in your abilities.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 09:09 Karen wrote:
    I can't believe some of the nasty, small minded comments on here by some people...Lambretta, why didn't you just stay at home?

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 10:01 Commuter wrote:
    I do agree about the Christmas trees, they look really bad! But I had a good evening last night and thought that the Framers on the High St went to a lot of effort with their quiz, so well done to them!

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 10:38 Cliff T.Thumper wrote:
    hmmmm - where shall I start..
    I know lets start at the very beginning (a very good place to start)...
    .
    Lambseypie - awww sweet, bitter too, like Myrrh - seasonal - every body THINKS they can play the drums don't they (not really a musical instrument is it after all)...
    Cath - thanks, and spot-on about the well-known commercialisation of the mid-winter festival...
    Tom Jones - exacertally (didn't see the Tubtumpers asking for money for their "services")...
    exiled - atheism irrelevant, it is after all an extension of the pagan mid-winter solstice shout isn't it...
    spongebob - it was free, people giving of their time to entertain (and applauded at every stop too I might add) - maybe not truly seasonal accepted, but still in the tradition of street-entertainment - and you're right it WAS busy - and only two knockers of the TubThumpers (so far)...
    EBM - hear hear
    Karen - hear hear
    Commuter - Hear hear
    .
    Seasons Greetings to ALL xxx

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 10:38 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    Maybe Lambretta and Spongebob woudl like to offer their services next year and show the Cliffe drummers (and the rest of us) how it should be done.
    Of course, sitting at a pc and carping is far easier.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 13:30 Carole Synga wrote:
    They were an out of tune rabble. Got right on my t1ts. Its the time of year for carol singers, not Cliffe 'oh look at us' untalented crap.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 13:47 a drummer wrote:
    The tubthumpers were not the only "bonfire" band on display last evening, Waterloo had their pipe and drum band out also. Why single out the cliffe for being there as bonfire people and not Waterloo? Perhaps the critical posters on here just don't like drumming bands and/or the Cliffe?
    Lambretta - Bonfire Drummers have just as much to do with Christmas as Fireworks do, but you don't criticise the evening starting with fireworks. Maybe you like fireworks but not drummers?
    Spongebob - You are Rick Allen and I claim my five pounds!
    Carole - What tune were they trying to be in with? It's called Rhythm, a method that would have been well employed by your parents perhaps!
    Myself, I think that both the tubthumpers and pipes & drums were pretty good.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 14:19 Carole Synga wrote:
    My point is, the Cliffe drummers were both noisy, out of tune AND rhythm and walking up and down the road so I didnt have a choice other than to listen to their drivel whereever I went. They spoilt the atmosphere. I'm surprised they didnt let off a few rookies.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 14:32 Carole Synga wrote:
    My point is that they were very noisy, out of tune AND rhythm and walking the length of the high street so they were interrupting carol singers, street entertainers ( all good) and the majority of the public with their tripe. They could have at least stuck to one place so we could get away from it. (Their fire site would have been ideal. In fact, perfect because cliffe "don't do it for an audience, they do it for themselves"

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 14:35 Carole Synga wrote:
    I didnt double enter a post on purpose. It didnt work when I first did it, then recreated it better.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 15:09 Karen wrote:
    Caroleurely you don't need to spell t1ts like that?? Since when was tits a rude worrd?
    tits.tits..tits.....tits......tits.....more tits....

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 15:54 Observant wrote:
    No.I don't think tits is rude...Sounds like teets doesn't it? I think 'jugs','bazookas'is much worse.Like c**t instead of fanny...

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 16:28 Deaf Aid wrote:
    By god they're appalling.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 16:54 Outmeeting Goer wrote:
    You're lucky. We have to listen to that sh1t every Saturday during the Autumn. Adam frost is one thing, adam frost banging a drum is quite another.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 17:48 Humbug wrote:
    Say what you like about the Cliffe drummers, they are not professional musicians and don't claim to be. They still went down well with many people, and personally I would rather listen to them than to christmas carols any day of the week. Yes, its true that the Bonfire Societies do bonfire for themselves and not for an audience, but as has already been said by others, this wasn't a Bonfire - simple as that. They were obviously asked to perform by whoever organises the late night shopping, so thats what they did. They are no more 'ooh look at us' than any other street entertainer or carol singer. Also they gave up their time for nothing. If they claimed to be a band of Cozy Powells, then you might have reason to have been disappointed, but I really don't see the problem. I guess some people just like to complain, but never do anything themselves.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 18:16 spongebob wrote:
    The point is, it's not bonfire night so Cliffe and all the other societies should now just disappear into a big hole and allow the carol singers to take over. I just couldn't understand why some tribal drum banging was being "played" on xmas late night shopping.....it sounded soooooo out of place.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 18:46 Pearlie wrote:
    Can I just remind you ungrateful sods that there are kids that play for the tub thumpers and they don't deserve you viscious comments any more that those people who give their time for free, to entertain. I may not like some of them on a personal level but they are neither out of tune nor out of rhythmn in my exerience and I think your comments are really unfair. I don't play or join because I can't be arsed, but even if they were rubbish (I can hear them from home and they sounded okay) at least they got of their arses and bothered. For kids I think that's quite impressive, and for adults even more so.

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    On Fri 4 Dec 2009 at: 18:54 Roly Mo wrote:
    Bonfire is for life, not just for Christmas.

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 01:20 TubThumper wrote:
    Lambretta, If you manage to pull your head out of your own arse and jump down off your high horse, then come along and teach us how it is done properly! seeing as YOUR mr i-can-do-anything-know-anything-and-be-everything! Us TubThumpers are proud of what we do, and Carole Synga, If you don't like it. . . buy some earplugs because we're going nowhere!

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 09:21 Pot, Kettle, Black wrote:
    Lambretta, at long last, a post from you that is actually amusing.

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 12:32 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    Lol @ Outmeeting Goer. You can always stay home if you don't like it.

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 14:56 Humbug wrote:
    What absolute crap you come out with sometimes Spongebob (and I use the word 'sometimes' completely inadvisedly), just because people are members of a Bonfire society, doesn't mean they shouldn't step outside their door any other time of the year. No, late night shopping isn't bonfire, but then please tell me what was bonfire about the drummers - except that they were Cliffe members. Did anyone make any reference to bonfire, let any fireworks off, carry any torches, throw any barrels in the river, etc... No they didn't. They just played their drums, and the majority of people enjoyed it. According to your argument, carol singers should not be allowed to sing in a choir at any other time of year !
    On a factual note, tribal or pagan drumming has probably got more to do with what you call Christmas than most of the other things that go on at late night shopping. After all, Christmas is just a name given to the hi-jacked ancient mid winter festival, which easily predates Christianity. It is also widely believed that Jesus was not even born at this time of year, but in the spring. So, you could ask what carol singers, fairy lights, Father Christmas, reindeer, eating turkey, or even Jesus have got to do with it !

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 15:48 Happy wrote:
    Brilliant response Humbug. Let them stick that in their pipe and smoke it.

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 17:01 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    Yes, Humbug, that's got to be a contender for best post of the week. I agree with every word (with the possible exception of "sometimes").

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    On Sat 5 Dec 2009 at: 23:23 Diplomat wrote:
    Well i think there very brave and have even inspired me and my mates to start playing the harmonica.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 07:58 Carole Synga wrote:
    Tubthumper, your last quote "We're going nowhere" is spot on.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 09:49 spongebob wrote:
    And it's another classic example of why bonfire members and in particularly Cliffe, are so far up their own a**es. Tub thumpers ???? what a flippin joke.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 11:32 Happy wrote:
    Spongebob thats abit below the belt. Why are you so anti Tub Thumpers, They are having fun and not harming anyone. You say you drum well, why dont you offer your services if they are so bad in your eyes.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 14:33 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    Because, Happy, it is far easier for the likes of SB and Lamby to criticise others than to risk criticism themselves.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 17:51 Nothing-Better-To-Do! wrote:
    Annette Curtin-Twitcher. . . I Like You! Well Said!

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 17:52 spongebob wrote:
    Read the post....they can do what they like on bonfire night and all of their "coming out" evenings.....it's just not appropriate for xmas late night shopping.

    Any part of that you DON'T understand ?

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 18:12 Happy wrote:
    Spongebob but if everyone took that attitude then no one would turn up. Drummers have a lot to do with christmas, remember the song about the little drummer boy???? pa rum pum pum pum

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 18:27 Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
    They can do what they like any time, as long as it's legal. They don't need your consent, Spongebob.
    For followers of the old religion, I'd say the Tub Thumpers is utterly in keeping with the spirit of the winter festival that was misappropriated by the Johnny-Come-Lately Christians and renamed Christmas.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 18:28 spongebob wrote:
    but it wasn't played in a xmas stylee....not a "little drummer boy" to be heard. Instead, bang bang bloody bang with no rhythm or beat at all.

    And YES....i could do better with one hand tied behind my back.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 18:43 happy wrote:
    Record yourself spongebob and download onto utube so we can all comment then.

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 22:25 40 something wrote:
    Happy, you would be surprised!

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    On Sun 6 Dec 2009 at: 22:31 Happy wrote:
    If your saying what i think your saying then why doesn't he help the Tub Thumpers instead of running them down all the time
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