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Bonfire Escape, regarding this lark of marching in regular clothes instead of costumes...Most have some significance in relation to Bonfire or previous events that members have witnessed. For example the American Indians in Commercial Square are relative to the visit of some members to America in the early 1900's. When these members saw the ways in which they were treated, they decided to dress in Indian costume to protest this behaviour, and it has grown ever since. And in relation to the remembrance of the Martyrs, the costumes mean nothing as this is not what they are meant to relate to! We remember the Martyrs mainly by carrying burning crosses through the streets and meeting at the Martyrs memorial on the morning of the 5th. There are 3 main dimensions of Bonfire in that we remember the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot, the burning of 17 Protestant Martyrs at the stake and the brave men that lost their lives for our country in the 2 world wars and wars since.
Agreeably CBS it's a logistical nightmare planning the 5th as it is, and in recent years we havn't done too bad a job. But as ever you can't pre-empt what events are going to occur throughout the night. That's why sometimes the Commander-in-Chief has to make real time calls in alterations of procession routes etc. which ultimately affect the timing of other, later processions and the rest of the night!
Prick Stein, if a family can be bothered to drag themselves out on a dark cold night to SUPPORT the event, then Spongy has every right to voice his opinion. It wouldn't harm Nevill to hear opinions like these anyway, so they can improve for next time. However, if everyone in the procession felt the same as you about not caring if there were any spectators or not, then maybe the SUPPORTING public should all just stay in on the 5th and watch tv so you can all march up and down empty streets.
Your costume....when you make it, assemble it, whatever you wear..?, Does it not go through your tiny mind how you will be admired by the crowd cos I bet you're the first one to queue up at the newsagents the next day to gawp through the papers to see if there's a photo of YOU in there! If you are true to your beliefs about crowds then why dress up??? Why not just go in normal clothes but carry out the tradition. This would carry more heartful meaning instead of dressing up as...er...say....an indian??? Like, the 17 martyrs would really relate to that??? They're probably looking down from Heaven and asking themselves "WTF had a zulu got to do with all this?..."We died for..vikings?"
Bonfire would be NOTHING without the crowds. It would be just a sad clan of wierdo's marching up and down lonely streets and more and more members would just 'not bother'.
Ok Mr God of Hell Fire, answer the following questions without consulting the web:
Who was the ringleader of the Gunpowder plot?
Which King did they intend to blow up?
Who ordered Westminster to be searched?
Where did the majority of the plotters escape to initially?
Name at least 2 of the Lewes martyrs
What year did Lewes first celebrate bonfire?
Cliffe Bonfire Society
The Gardeners
The 'No Popery' banner going up on the fourth
The smell from the brewery
The view across the town from the war memorial to the Martyrs memorial and the view from the golf course back accross town.
Lewes is special, lets all keep it that way!
Sorry to correct you Cliffe hanger but i think you'll find that the bonfires Animosity towards the pope is not because of the discovery of the 1605 gunpowder plot, but pope paul IV for the burning of the Protestant Martyrs between 1555 and 1557. please see me for detention after lessons.
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